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Admitting to shades of these "negative feelings" REDUCES the chance that the feeling gets in your way. - [Leaning into Desire](https://therethinkgroup.net/leaning-into-desire/) - Ignore those who say you shouldn’t have desire. You should, you can, and you can use desire to achieve what you want. Take the desire and ask yourself “What would I need to do IF I were going to actually achieve this?” - [You Can't Stop Your Brain from Predicting.](https://therethinkgroup.net/you-cant-stop-your-brain-from-predicting/) - Human brains predict. In fact, we constantly anticipate in order to perceive anything. - [The $12B Client who Prioritizes People's Wellness](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-12b-client-who-prioritizes-peoples-wellness/) - In the spring of 2019, we got a call to do a workshop at a fund that Jared Dillian (Daily Dirtnap) had referred us to. They were having an offsite meeting for their global team and wanted us to do a comprehensive workshop on the latest psychology of investing and trading.. Two and a half - [Trading Psychology to Sports Psychology: Applying The Shull Method at Hendrick MotorsSports](https://therethinkgroup.net/trading-psychology-to-sports-psychology-athletes-under-pressure/) - ReThink is so pleased to announce our work with Andy Papa and the Pit Crews of Hendrick MotorSports. We are working with each cup team – Cars 9, 24, 48 and 88 and the various levels of development teams, two of which support cars 37 and 47. We began with an intensive five-hour workshop taught - [What Really Solves the Y#ps](https://therethinkgroup.net/what-really-solves-the-yps/) - New emotional experiences can create renewed belief in ourselves. - [THE Y#PS: Superimposing the Past Over the Present](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-yps-superimposing-the-past-over-the-present/) - Issues like these happen when something from the past gets superimposed over the present. - [Only 9 Home Runs: Breaking Through Self-Imposed Ceilings to Realize Our Full Potential](https://therethinkgroup.net/9-home-runs/) - Sometimes, we limit our own potential. So how do we overcome these self-imposed ceilings? First, we need to create awareness around self-limiting beliefs. - [Irritation, Annoyance, Frustration or Fury](https://therethinkgroup.net/irritation-annoyance-frustration-or-fury/) - Sooner or later, it is bound to happen. The markets conspire to converge in a way that fits your optimal trading strategy. You see it, you know it and then at the same moment, the phone rings, or the boss yells or the ….. Something happens that interrupts your ability to execute as you planned - [Why Change Your Thinking about Your Emotions?](https://therethinkgroup.net/why-you-should-change-your-thinking-about-your-emotions/) - John Netto, a very successful trader, is currently finishing his book The Global Macro Edge wherein he takes on what he sees as the myths of Wall St. One of the chapters will be titled “Emotions are your Biggest Ally”. How, when it seems emotions are usually our biggest enemy, could John think such a - [Recover from a Trading Mistake through Writing](https://therethinkgroup.net/recover-from-a-trading-mistake-through-writing/) - A few weeks ago, I attended the annual meeting of The Social and Affective Neuroscience Society (SANS) – a seemingly unlikely place to figure out how to resolve a trading mistake! Those who follow me know I am not only a closet academic but that many of the advanced trading psychology ideas I teach originate with - [Nailing Better Trade Exits](https://therethinkgroup.net/nailing-better-trade-exits/) - Accepting that a whole host of feelings occur in the prospect of exiting a trade helps your ability to act on the intuitive or integral feelings that give you market information. - [You Never Know When Your Shot Will Drop](https://therethinkgroup.net/you-never-know-when-your-shot-will-drop/) - Saturday night, a horse and a jockey with 80-1 odds stunned the horse racing world by coming from behind to win the prestigious Kentucky Derby. The only other horse to win with longer odds was Donerail in 1913, at 91-1-- more than a century earlier. If this isn't an object lesson in how we never know when our chance will strike, then nothing is. - [I Hear Voices](https://therethinkgroup.net/i-hear-voices/) - I hear voices … “That was a great trade; so what, it’s over.” “Yes, we won but I struck out 3 times.” “The only trade that matters is the next one.” “Oh no, I’m doing it again, trying to make up for the last bad trade by making a great trade. What is wrong with - [The Road to Optimal Trading](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-road-to-optimal-trading/) - Have you ever felt the satisfaction of adding a new rule to your trading system only to have it disrupt your profit making? It felt as if adding another element to your process would make the right decisions more obvious but instead, trading got harder. More rules might seem like more confidence but in the - [Need Cleveland Despair? Yes, (Temporarily).](https://therethinkgroup.net/need-cleveland-despair-yes-temporarily/) - Temporarily despairing could be the clue for the Brown to prevail in Pittsburgh - [ANNOUNCING THE INTUITION BRAIN GAME](https://therethinkgroup.net/announcing-the-intuition-brain-game/) - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE The ReThink Group Launches “Intuition Brain Game” as Part of Intuition and Conviction Training to Help Portfolio Managers, Traders and Risk Decision Makers Develop their Instincts and Mitigate Risk Program links decision neuroscience, psychological research, behavioral economics, and a person’s internal intuitive voice to improve decision making and risk taking. New York, - [The Offense and Defense of Trading](https://therethinkgroup.net/offense-defense-trading/) - Trading is hard. This far-flung, never-ending electronic poker game serves up a mental challenge unlike any other. Anything can happen at any time. It looks like a numbers game but it's really a people game. The data are numbers but the information is in the relationships between, and the implications of, those numbers. Ambiguity reigns. - [Develop the Instincts for Trading](https://therethinkgroup.net/develop-instincts-trading/) - “I got them all wrong” exclaimed one private equity portfolio manager. “Ha! Right!” said another Chief Investment Officer when I suggested that the pattern recognition skills embedded in succeeding with the Bloomberg Tradebook Trader Brain Exercise (TBX > GO) resembled private equity decisions. With almost ten thousand players, this exercise/game illustrates an underlying hunger for new ways to - [Just How Authentic is Maggie Siff as Dr. Wendy Rhoades in BILLIONS? Answer: VERY](https://therethinkgroup.net/just-authentic-maggie-siff-dr-wendy-rhoades-billions-answer/) - A few months ago, when Preet Bharara was fired by Trump and then asked if watching BILLIONS was now weird, he responded "Well, for some people, it's always been weird". As they say, "I feel ya', man". It's a statement I totally get! To watch Maggie Siff play Wendy catapults me into the epitome of surreal. - [Tips on Employee Engagement from The Shull Method](https://therethinkgroup.net/denise-on-employee-engagement/) - The ReThink Group is proud to announce that our CEO Denise Shull, the inspiration behind the #WendyRhoades character on Showtime’s #BILLIONS, is featured in Mediaplanet’s latest campaign launching today, November 14, 2018 in USA Today. ‘Employee Engagement’ creates a 360 guide for the entire engagement journey from recruitment to recognition and retention while highlighting the - [Using "Negative" Feelings to Get You What You Want](https://therethinkgroup.net/usenegativefeelingstogetwhatuwant/) - Here’s an example of how leaning into all of your feelings - even the so-called "negative feelings" - works. This morning I went to my usual, fairly challenging, workout class at Equinox. Between my own suspected concussion (surf board to head) + my dog’s trip to the emergency room, I’d been a couch potato for - [Trading Emotions Echo the Past](https://therethinkgroup.net/trading-emotions-fractal-echoes-past/) - A trader I coach predicted this as the best positioning for Brexit : Short the pound, short the S&Ps, long gold and short oil. This is John B. - a guy with 20+ years of very successful experience and a recent history of working on separating instinct from impulse through coaching. We speak three times - [Solve that Cleveland Sports Curse](https://therethinkgroup.net/solve-that-cleveland-sports-curse/) - UPDATE June 20, 2016: I am SO glad the Cavs won! Thrilled. Elated. Vindicated. Ecstatic. Relieved. Joyous. Shocked... not necessarily in that order. Maybe someday I will get to interview LeBron about the cycle of emotions he experienced and used to create this incredible historic victory! UPDATE June 17, 2016: This time I stayed until - [FOMO or Fear of Feeling Bad in the Future](https://therethinkgroup.net/fomo-or-fear-of-feeling-bad-in-the-future/) - This morning I was talking to a coaching client and we jointly realized that to characterize one of the most powerful trading emotions as FOMO actually misses the most important point. FOMO - or fear of missing out - connotates the fear of missing an event which really isn't the mental set-up causing one to - [Should I Stay or Should I Go?](https://therethinkgroup.net/should-i-stay-or-should-i-go/) - We've all asked this question. Should I stay at the party a bit longer? Should I wait and see if the Cleveland Browns might possibly (by some miracle) pull this game out? (NO!) But I bet it never occurred to you that this is really the central question of trading. It's the exit that makes - [Why Advanced Trading Psychology is Your Best Bet](https://therethinkgroup.net/why-advanced-trading-psychology-is-your-best-bet/) - In the Annual Review of Psychology 2015, Lerner of Harvard points out that from 1970 to 1995 there were virtually NO scientific papers on the subject of emotions and judgment and decision making (JDM). From 1995-2000 there were less than 50 a year and then it began to climb. The number of papers doubled from - [Gain Market Intuition with NinjaTrader's Market Replay](https://therethinkgroup.net/gain-market-intuition-with-ninjatraders-market-replay/) - Back in the ‘90s in Chicago when I just beginning to trade my mentor would say: “I’ve seen this movie before.” Mistaking the market for a math problem, I really didn’t get what he meant – until indeed I too felt a click of recognition as I watched price action unfold. Experience delivers an ability - [Trading Emotions - the Latest Research](https://therethinkgroup.net/trading-emotions-the-latest-research/) - The latest research on preventing the behavioral risks of emotion overload once again turns out to be counter-intuitive. Instead of using your logic to change your feelings, it appears that embracing your emotions may be the fastest route to calming or changing them. "Tapping into more [emphasis mine] emotions improves coping, according to Todd Kashdan, - [Uncertainty - Reprinted from Psych Capital Tips and Tricks](https://therethinkgroup.net/uncertainty-reprinted-from-psych-capital-tips-and-tricks/) - Trading psychology advice permeates the world of traders. Yet, the majority of traders still experience a challenge that goes like this: "Why did I do that?" They have a plan, they swear they will not make that mistake again and BAM! they do precisely the thing they did not want to do (and swore they - [Should I Trade in Simulation?](https://therethinkgroup.net/trade-simulation/) - In the course of my 20+ years in the trading world, the question of when or how to use 'sim' has come up dozens of times. When I traded full-time, I used to wonder. When I added coaching, I got the question all of the time. This week a client told me of an educator - [The 3 "Eyes" of Trading Using Your Feelings](https://therethinkgroup.net/3-eyes-trading-using-feelings/) - It unfortunately remains the predominant and conventional wisdom that the best trading occurs from so-called purely rational (read: statistical) and non-emotional analysis. Alas, it's just not true. In fact, it isn't even possible for a human being to make a risk-decision devoid of feelings and the most-forward thinking research says it isn't possible to be - [Empathy and Intuition, Two Key Trading Thinking Styles](https://therethinkgroup.net/empathy-intuition-two-key-trading-thinking-styles/) - Two separate studies interviewing close to 200 successful portfolio managers and traders confirm what Jason Voss and Ravhee Mehta have reported in their books The Intuitive Investor and The Emotionally Intelligent Investor. Being able to read the feelings of other market participants, a form of empathy, and being able to parse one's one feelings for - [Brain Turns Statistics into Emotion!](https://therethinkgroup.net/brains-turns-stats-emotion/) - In technical terms, the researchers call this projected emotion, "anticipatory affect". In simple terms, the results of this meta-analysis of the brain's reaction to probabilities in risk goes like this: 1. A trader or PM takes in information about the expected mean, variance or skewness of a trade. 2. The PM or trader's brain responds - [A "Philosophy" of Making Trading Rules](https://therethinkgroup.net/a-philosophy-of-making-trading-rules/) - A coaching client in Hong Kong recently wrote this in response to a homework assignment. It is so good, in my opinion, that I want to make it available. Let us know what you think? FROM: AN You asked me what would be the smallest number of rules I would need to trade well. I - [Unnoticed Contexts & Trading Performance](https://therethinkgroup.net/unnoticed-contexts-trading-performance/) - Earlier this week, one of my clients with the title "Head of Equity Trading" wrote exactly this sentence copied and pasted from his email: "i had another one of those traading days where i let my loss just go to its fullest, and had a really bad day." SO... how does a trader of that - [Emotional Intelligence circa 2014](https://therethinkgroup.net/emotional-intelligence-circa-2014/) - Fast Company recently wrote that EI or emotional intelligence is beginning to be considered along SAT scores in college admittance - at Yale no less! Likewise, the New York Times reported on how emotional awareness tactics are helping discouraged job seekers find work. What's up with this? Why is emotion - that feared and denigrated - [How Traders can Leverage the New 4 "Basic" Emotions](https://therethinkgroup.net/how-traders-can-leverage-the-new-4-basic-emotions/) - Did you know that no one knows for sure how many "basic" (irreducible) emotions there are? Many scientists have long believed in six, a new study indicates four and a growing body of work by the teams emerging from Lisa Feldman Barrett's labs makes a very credible case for only two - approach and avoidance - [Understand and Eradicate the Mysterious Riddles in Your Trading](https://therethinkgroup.net/understand-and-eradicate-the-mysterious-riddles-in-your-trading/) - What phenomenon does this partial quote describe? “...people all of whose human relationships have the same outcome: such as the benefactor who is abandoned in anger after a time by each of his protégés, however much they may otherwise differ from one another, ...or the man whose friendships all end in betrayal by his friend; - [Do I want to be Right or Do I want to make Money?](https://therethinkgroup.net/do-i-want-to-be-right-or-do-i-want-to-make-money/) - As I prepare for The Galtere Institute's Behavioral Finance symposium, I am doing what I always do before I speak - catching up on the latest studies on emotion and risk decision making. For example, did you know that there is actually still much disagreement in science about what emotion is and how it works? - [Improving your Market Movement Calls](https://therethinkgroup.net/improving-your-market-movement-calls/) - Price action in the markets is "the tell" - as they used to say. (It seems that is one of those words that has come and gone). But the problem is this said 'tell', tells you different things - it can be interpreted many ways. It is what is known as ambiguous. Humans have a - [The Very First (and I what I thought would be the last) Words I Wrote on Trading Psychology](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-very-first-and-i-what-i-thought-would-be-the-last-words-i-wrote-on-trading-psychology/) - Shull's first article "What Would Freud Say? Stroll Down Freud's Mental Path to Profits", December 2004. When I wrote this I had NO idea whatsoever that I would ever publicly write or say ANOTHER word on the psychology of trading. It was just an idea I had based on re-writing my Master's Thesis for a - [Neuroscience & The Risk Manager including White Paper The Art of Algorithmic War](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-art-of-algorithmic-war-white-paper-by-shull-long/) - Coates, Shull, other experts weigh in on risk professionals’ attention to their discipline Thursday, May 02, 2013, Risk Professional Magazine (published by the Global Association of Risk Professionals - GARP) By Katherine Heires Over the past 20 years, advances in brain imaging technology and other methods of analyzing neural activity have yielded important insights into - [ReThinking Trading Psychology 101 (version 2)](https://therethinkgroup.net/rethinking-trading-psychology-101-edition-2/) - Originally posted on Business Insider, April 17. Conventional wisdom in trading psychology used to depend on two primary tenets – discipline and ‘control your emotions’. But that was before neuroscience started putting traders, poker players and other risk-gamers into brain scanners. Now that we know that all decisions depend on the presence of an emotion, - [Sustainable Investing & Trading Success via Psychological Strategies](https://therethinkgroup.net/sustainable-investing-trading-success-via-psychological-strategies/) - In response to the post and discussion here by @ppearlman, @andrewunknown asks: Phil's last line: "So, even awareness is overrated. Its a start but really its about your choices. Its where the training begins, not ends." Denise: "What is standing in between the "knowing" and the "doing"?" These quotes rather concisely introduce two explanatory problems: - [The Secret Ingredient to Success in The NYTimes](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-secret-ingredient-to-success-in-the-nytimes/) - Last Sunday, the most successful trader I knew from the Chicago Options pits texted me this - "Self-examination is the key to noodle making and other accomplishments." Now you should know two things - 1) this guy NEVER texts - we have been friends for going on 20 years and this is the very first - [Why Does the SEC Love Press Releases?](https://therethinkgroup.net/why-does-the-sec-love-press-releases/) - At the Compliance Exchange, I posted some thoughts on the SEC sending a Wells Notice to Netflix and their CEO, Reed Hastings. It turns out that that Holman Jenkins at the WSJ agrees with me. - [Denise talks Trading & Golf Psych on CNBC's Squawk Box](https://therethinkgroup.net/thesquawkinterview/) - to discuss her recent book Market Mind Games - [It never ceases to amaze me ho...](https://therethinkgroup.net/it-never-ceases-to-amaze-me-ho/) - It never ceases to amaze me how "Regret Theory", while SO instructive, has been missed by psychologists & economists. http://t.co/lNfxouQ2 - [CNBC Squawk Box on Market Mind Games](https://therethinkgroup.net/4212-2/) - In case you missed it, here's my segment on CNBC Squawk Box this morning. Had a ton of fun with Joe and Andrew. More later. FRIDAY the 10th ... and yes, this Joe, this approach DOES work with putting too! In fact, it may work even better with putting because there are actually fewer uncertainties - [Jamie, Psych Risk Management & Living to Trade Another Day](https://therethinkgroup.net/jamie-psych-risk-managment-living-to-trade-another-day/) - This is a true story. 3 years ago today (I have this weird memory for dates), I spotted Jamie Dimon and Bill Daley sitting outside Gibsons in Chicago. I just happened to have come from a lunch with Patricia Crisafulli who had written the House of Dimon and I had her book with his picture - [Golf Proving our Eyesight depends on our Feelings](https://therethinkgroup.net/golf-proving-our-eyesight-depends-on-our-feelings/) - Lisa Feldman Barrett and her colleagues at The Affective Science Institute have been talking for a couple of years now about how even our eyesight needs emotion to actually work. She says that without emotional input we can see, but not identify, an object. Now even more evidence of the validity of this idea comes - [All About Alpha & Psychology Today](https://therethinkgroup.net/all-about-alpha-psychology-today/) - Here are the links to my thoughts on the needed new paradigm in risk management (All About Alpha) and the three things anyone can do to be more successful in the financial markets. What were they thinking? From MF to LTCM 3 Things anyone can do better to understand the psychological side of the markets - [MARKET MIND GAMES, A Radical Psychology of Risk](https://therethinkgroup.net/market-mind-games-a-radical-psychology-of-risk/) - Risk ain't what it used to be - if fact, most of the time it isn't even risk at all. Instead it is something called Knightian Uncertainty - or the fundamental inability of humans to know for sure what will happen tomorrow. Yet we have to make decisions about tomorrow all the time. Reams have - [An Infuriating Scam .... trader abuse.](https://therethinkgroup.net/an-infuriating-scam-trader-abuse/) - THIS JUST CAME IN AN EMAIL TO ME.... makes me livid. For now I have removed the header.... is it just the relentless rain? 1) Turn on the computer in the morning (9:15 AM EST) 2) Place an order at the "Bounce Line" 3) Make money 4) Turn off computer at 11:00 AM EST 5) - [A Real Trader Writes about Working His Psychological Capital](https://therethinkgroup.net/a-real-trader-writes-about-working-his-psychological-capital/) - Dear Denise, I hope you are well and that your book is coming along nicely. I haven't written in awhile, but I’ve been having quite a time with the Access course. When I began, I made steady progress through the first four or five chapters, and my trading was improving as well, though I didn’t - [Executive Function & Emotion - from Boulder NIMH Conference](https://therethinkgroup.net/executive-function-emotion-from-boulder-nimh-conference/) - To quote The ReThink Group's great intern, Clay Berry a senior at Rutgers, "The first speaker of the day, Luiz Pessoa from The University of Indiana, talked about "How do emotion and motivation interact with cognitive control?" Pessoa noted how the older notion of emotion and perception/cognition being two separate entities was becoming OBSOLETE." (emphasis - [Ted On Ambiguity](https://therethinkgroup.net/ts-on-ambiguity/) - I woke up this morning, still thinking about ambiguity and my natural aversion to…. Well, mornings. After a cup of Joe and a slice of shingle with a shimmy and a shake, I set myself down the ponder: Ambiguity Coveted by politicians and poets… Distained by science and law. “political science” or “poetic justice”? Artist, - [Ryan The Peak](https://therethinkgroup.net/rf-the-peak/) - the peak n e a r i n g the snowy summit the comforts of the slow and steady climb slip away the air has changed gazing off the windy peak inside churns - excitement erupts voices clamoring to be heard Maslow entices me to take it to a higher level Darwin implores – be - [Allan - Ode To Ambiguity](https://therethinkgroup.net/an-ode-to-ambiguity/) - To the melody of the Jungle Book's Bare Necessities, here's a little song about ambiguity aversion. Best sung with Louis Armstrong playing the original in the background! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbUv_Tnnl2g Embrace the ambiguities The simple ambiguities Don’t chase every tick in every move Just face the unpredictability The financial markets’ recipe For bringing opportunities to you Throw - [New Model of Thinking and Emotion](https://therethinkgroup.net/300-2/) - At the recent Neuroleadership summit in Boston, Lisa Feldman Barrett articulated a whole new view on the appropriate model for understanding our thinking and our feelings. "Lisa challenged some of the most deeply held ideas about how the mind works in her session. She stated that Daniel Goldman’s theory on emotional intelligence is largely incorrect. - [Chilean Mine "75% Science, 25% Miracle" ...](https://therethinkgroup.net/chilean-mine-75-science-25-miracle/) - ... or so says the WSJ today. "It was 75% engineering and 25% a miracle," said topographer Macarena Valdes as she was speaking of her own role in the rescue. I submit that maybe only 75% was engineering but the miracle portion occurred within Ms. Valdes' brain! She acknowledged using "gut instinct" to help guide - ["Travesting" and the fC's in decision making under uncertainty](https://therethinkgroup.net/travesting-and-the-fcs-in-decision-making-under-uncertainty/) - Two new terms you will (eventually) read in this book I am feverishly working on. (It's true - I am having a blast and really want nothing else but to be able to work on it... hence, my choice of the word feverishly): "Travesting" - meaning the combination of trading and investing that everyone needs - [Trader Diagnosis' Latest Thoughts](https://therethinkgroup.net/trader-diagnosis-latest-thoughts/) - Here are some of the things I've been thinking about: The two areas in trading that separate the men from the boys (so to speak) are: 1.) The ability to divide environmental perceptions in half and process them separately. First I ask myself what I am feeling and in doing so I acknowledge and honor - [The ? They Aren't Asking about "Flash Crash"](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-they-arent-asking-about-flash-crash/) - 1. Was it purposeful? 2. Were specific orders entered that would "sweep the book" in PG, MMM and Accenture? Why those stocks? 3. Why 2:40 pm? Isn't that a suspicious time in terms of margin calls from clearing houses and expiration of limit down rules @ NYSE? 4. What kind of requirements should there be - [Analysis Session #1 for June Bull Put Spread](https://therethinkgroup.net/analysis-session-1-for-june-bull-put-spread/) - UPDATE TO POST "Joining the Options Counter Culture" 1. Nice to have a tutor in thinkorswim software ... better to have it be the same guy you drink margaritas at home with. 2. A put spread risks less than just buying calls. 3. I am actually bearish for May and bullish for June.. so now - [Joining the Options-Trading "Counter Culture"](https://therethinkgroup.net/joining-the-options-trading-counter-culture/) - Despite the fact that the guy who got me into the trading business in 1994 had been almost an original CBOE floor member, despite the fact that one of my best trades ever was a covered write on LU in July of 1999 (think sell Lucent @75), despite the fact that the man in my - [An Emotional Conversation over at Tyler Cowen's Marginal Revolution blog](https://therethinkgroup.net/an-emotional-conversation-over-at-tyler-cowens-marginal-revolution-blog/) - Somewhere down the road, you just might find you agree with more than you expected. Or worse, learned a thing or two about making better decisions in the face of UOUP (rhymes with soup) - uncertain outcomes uncertain probabilities. - ["Emotional arousal" is not something to avoid, but to master. By Elise Payzan Le Nestour](https://therethinkgroup.net/emotional-arousal-is-not-something-to-avoid-but-to-master/) - All this suggests that emotions are key information providers when deciding under uncertainty. They make us tuned to our environment. Actually, in some contexts of fast and intuitive decision-making in the face of unstable (high vol) conditions, one expects that the stronger the emotional uncertainty signals of the day-trader, the higher the performance. - [Conviction, Anxiety and Belief](https://therethinkgroup.net/conviction-anxiety-and-belief/) - I mean we also hear "believe in yourself" but where do these advisories leave you when a trading idea is going wrong? How do you handle the teeter totter that holds belief and conviction on one side and price and risk management on the other? What fulcrum can you depend on? - [Another one-year later post - with a twist](https://therethinkgroup.net/another-one-year-later-post-with-a-twist/) - A year ago tonight I was merrily watching my Cleveland Browns actually win while on a Jet Blue flight to the CME's Inaugural Global Financial Leadership conference when my first cell beep on landing was Bill Long calling to say LEH was BK and ML was BAC. 365 days after that watershed event we have - [The Six-Step Antidote to The Black Swan](https://therethinkgroup.net/1451-2/) - Figure out how to differentiate implicit learning from impulse. - [Trader W – my trading today vs. yesterday](https://therethinkgroup.net/trader-w-my-trading-today-vs-yesterday/) - Today Set the alarm for 6:40 am, but ended up going to bed pretty late. 6:40 am alarm rings, still super tired, so decide to sleep in till 7:30 and then see if I want to trade 7:28 wake up without alarm, feeling good. 7:45 ish, notice the market has really sold off. Want to - [Morgan Stanley, Tom Watson and Recovery](https://therethinkgroup.net/morgan-stanley-tom-watson-and-recovery/) - Today's neuroscience proves that the residual feelings resulting form one event can completely color your beliefs about the next event. It also proves you can't act - or even make a decision - without emotional inputs. Therefore, managing those inputs - in the way that works - is a singularly profitable (and winning) endeavor. - [How to Leverage Emotion in Market Judgments](https://therethinkgroup.net/how-to-leverage-emotion/) - The thing is - all of this requires both a change in perspective and more importantly, putting the same effort into understanding your internal signals as you put into the ones the market is providing! - [To Blackman Capital re: How I Trade](https://therethinkgroup.net/to-blackman-capital-re-how-i-trade/) - The real clue is that the numbers (and the bars and lines they draw) are only a clue - not the real answer. - [Trader W Strikes Again!](https://therethinkgroup.net/trader-w-strikes-again/) - Reading your work, applying it, monitoring myself, writing down my feelings, is really paying off. I am trading less, and making more money. This week and last week have been incredible. - [Communique from Trader W](https://therethinkgroup.net/communique-from-trader-w/) - This is the advanced trader psychology of managing our psychological capital as carefully, if not more carefully, that you manage your cash capital. - [Advanced Trading Psychology Course](https://therethinkgroup.net/advanced-trading-psychology-course/) - ...because a few have asked where on the blog they can find info yet I would prefer to keep the blog as a discussion, here is the link to the info on the new self-driven study course. http://traderpsyches.com/selfdirected.php A more complete description and the download of an introduction is available here. Merci beaucoup for inquiring - [Proposed Trader Tax will end short-term trading](https://therethinkgroup.net/proposed-trader-tax-will-end-short-term-trading/) - THIS WAS PASSED ONTO ME - but I also heard it from Eliot Wickersheimer Principal of Mirus Futures. I hadn't had much time and was thinking "oh they will add $5.00 or something to each trade" ... WRONG! http://www.foxbusiness.com/video-search/m/21948997/congressman-sounds-off-on-taxing-trades.htm#q=defazio According to what I have been told - here's impact on futures trade: The ES is - [Gregg M., CMT at Morgan Stanley sent this....](https://therethinkgroup.net/461-2/) - Black Swan pattern confirmed .... - [New York Magazine "Professional" Traders](https://therethinkgroup.net/new-york-magazine-professional-traders/) - Every now and then someone calls me and asks me to recommend a "prop" firm and now I can just send them to this article - Surfing the Tsunami, New York Mag, Feb 2 issue Evidently this is news to the magazine but from my vantage point, this is no different than the desk I - [The First Religious Ritual of 2009](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-first-religious-ritual-of-2009/) - ...that is always how Fed afternoon strikes me. All of us short-term, high-frequency traders staring at the screens ready at least to watch the fireworks. Sometimes I find myself laughing at 2:14:30 Eastern time. Some of us love it (me) and some of us think it is insane (me too) but we watch .... wait - [Emotional Finance](https://therethinkgroup.net/emotional-finance/) - If you heard the term, what would you think? to be continued .... - [The Ascent of Money by Ferguson](https://therethinkgroup.net/the-ascent-of-money-by-ferguson/) - This is a book everyone should read (even if this Economist link isn't exactly flattering). My virtual sister-in-law gave it to us for Christmas (trader/market shrink and economist/options trader in the house after all) and I am very glad she did. In these days of blaming the bankers and even capitalism for the economic descent - [Catch a bid](https://therethinkgroup.net/catch-a-bid/) - I have been wondering since mid-October when they were going to give in and do the basic thing one needs to do to stabilize a market - provide a deep-pocketed bid! In fact, I said it on the Cavuto show and have said many times since, until the Treasury starts bidding for some of these - [Keynes said it before us](https://therethinkgroup.net/keynes-said-it-before-us/) - Someone named Robert Skidlesky wrote a book called John Maynard Keynes: 1883-1946: Economist, Philosopher, Statesman. He says that Keynes said "not all future events could be reduced to measurable risk. There was a residue of genuine uncertainty and this made disaster an ever-present possibility, not a once-in-a-lifetime 'shock'. Investment was more an act of faith - [So you doubt the unconscious do you](https://therethinkgroup.net/so-you-doubt-the-unconscious-do-you/) - Check this out ....A study done in conjunction with a Harvard neuroscientist - unconscious processes in the most unlikely of places - a complete loss of vision.(Today's New York Times Science Times) Go see the video at the website of Beatrice Gelber The brain is an amazing thing. Happy Merry to ALL DKS - [Fraud & Fear: Weekend Papers report on Facts & Feelings](https://therethinkgroup.net/fraud-fear-and-beliefs-the-weekend-news-on-feelings/) - WSJ Weekend: "Fund Fraud Hits Big Names". New York Times Sunday Business: Schiller talks confidence and beliefs and Ben Stein talks fear. Madoff's investors "felt confident" in his long-time consistent returns. Yet every article indicates there were multiple red flags. No investment fees? Not even a 1% management fee when most charge 2%? As Joe - [Having Forgotten to Doubt, "Modern Finance" drove us Insane](https://therethinkgroup.net/having-forgotten-to-doubt-modern-finance-drove-us-insane/) - Portfolio selection: Let's exhume the buried man! In his milestone paper "Portfolio Selection" published in the Journal of Finance in 1952, Harry Markowitz, the pioneer of "modern finance," recommends to use the Expected return-Variance (E-V) rule, both as a working hypothesis to explain investment behavior and as a guide to "investment" - as distinguished from - [Stock Market Psychology & Trading Levels](https://therethinkgroup.net/stock-market-psychology-trading-levels/) - well they asked.... and yes we are in a bear market i.e. sell the rallies and buy the dips. I hated to sound like a downer but hey, Roubini I am not (although so far.... ) MONEY MATTERS on ABC NEWS NOW Having said that, 900 in the S&P futures held like a rock. Talking - [Financial Engineering Brought to You by Engineers](https://therethinkgroup.net/financial-engineering-brought-to-you-by-engineers/) - ... most of which are human. I saw this in the NY Times... and here is says from the WSJ but in any event, the word is out. Math wizzes are human. The human brain does funny things with biases and predispositions that causes it to not see the data clearly. In fact, one solution - [Elise Payzan Le Nestour on "The Brain on Risk"](https://therethinkgroup.net/elise-payzan-on-the-brain-on-risk/) - On The Ubiquitous Missing Information in Markets: What Neuroeconomics Has to Say 'Ambiguity' is the Hallmark of Trading and Investing The situation of taking a position when the odds are uncertain because of missing information is referred to by economists as "ambiguous". F Knight in his book Risk, Uncertainty, and Profit was the first to - [Shiller, Negative Affect & Psych Cap](https://therethinkgroup.net/shiller-negative-affect-psych-cap/) - Robert Shiller writes in the New York Times about the role of group-think during the upward phase of our blown-up housing bubble. He recounts the polite discounting of his warnings in Irrational Exuberance (see all of Shiller's books) and says "speculative bubbles are caused by contagious excitement." He segues to the remaining gap between economics - [David Brook's "Behavioral Revolution"](https://therethinkgroup.net/david-brooks-behavioral-revolution/) - The NY Times esteemed Op-ed and they leave out the best part - as mentioned in our earlier post today. It is all fine and well to notice that we behave irrationally, it is all fine and well to say that some things are Black Swans... what it is NOT fine and well is to - [When Will It Stop? ... 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Richard Bookstabber in Demons of our Design had it right when he described how interconnected all trading and all markets are.... the only part he didn't really cover in detail is this: it is NOT fear and greed - it is fear and fear2. Fear2 is the fear of - [brilliant, sad but true...](https://therethinkgroup.net/brilliant-sad-but-true/) - [Wow! ...what a market & CME's Global Financial Leadership](https://therethinkgroup.net/wow-what-a-market-cmes-global-financial-leadership/) - Last Friday we all knew SOMETHING was going to happen. But who could have predicted the week that now was? LEH, MER, AIG and even RTC2.... 500 down, 500 up: certainly a time to understand the new science of decision-making! 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